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Fredde Cederberg

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26cc-27cc
« on: March 11, 2009, 12:38:52 pm »
How many countries race this engine size or are going to start with it.

Sweden have a Zenoah std class in FSR-O and probably it is going to be a open 27cc class also in FSR-O(will be decided 28th of march)

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 04:55:47 pm »
Hi Fredde

In Finland we race FSR-O 26 std Zenoah clas. We also race a 35 FSR-O NAVIGA clas, but all the Boats are 26 cc except one.

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 05:12:31 pm »
It seems that more and more people are choosing the 26cc size engines instead of the high cost 35cc engines, to get Naviga to start up a new class I think that the 35cc has to be removed, I don't believe that there is room for another class att the moment BUT most likely a 26cc class would be good for the FSR classes due to cost and avalibilty of engines.

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 10:55:44 pm »
I´m talking with people from "Environmental Protection Office " better is to change the class "26" to methanol and cancel the " normal 35 ".
Problem is many times " normal petrol " when we using official methanol + castor it´s " clean ".


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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2009, 10:05:14 am »
Great idea Frank. I never did like the smell of petrol  ;)
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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2009, 10:05:36 pm »
I´m talking with people from "Environmental Protection Office " better is to change the class "26" to methanol and cancel the " normal 35 ".
Problem is many times " normal petrol " when we using official methanol + castor it´s " clean ".
I have a long time been wondering, wy people in this hobby, do talk so much about invironment, concerning the small use of petrole? In comperison with the use of our cars we use to transport our boats, often long distances, to traning one hour, or to a competition, the use of petrole in the 26 petrole class is even not comparable to the consumption of all cars used fot the purpose.
Best regards 
« Last Edit: March 14, 2009, 10:13:00 pm by Sune Persson »

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2009, 10:40:08 pm »
Hi Sune,
in germany it´s very difficult to find some lakes, from the officials i get acceptance for " castor + methanol ".
We have around Hannover (20km around) ~60 lakes, nearly all are closed for petrolengines.
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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2009, 11:40:28 pm »
Okey, sorry for you.
In spite of our responsibility of the global heathing, I think people are getting frustrated about the invironmental issue. Some people with power in political possition, seem to got a panic about it. The most of them, should know, learn, or get the information about from were, or how manufactorers devellope the Nitrometane?
The numbers of modelboat or modelcar drivers are so low. In comparison with for example, anually driven cars, aviation traffic or other user of different chemical products, is the use of petrol in modelsport redicoulesly small.
But the politicians do´nt stop flying, or driving their cars - do they?
Read this för example; When manufactoring Nitrometane, the "Propane" is a part of the process.
"Propane is a three-carbon alkane, normally a gas, but compressible to a transportable liquid. It is derived from other petroleum products during oil or natural gas processing. It is commonly used as a fuel for engines, barbecues, portable stoves and residential central heating.
When used as vehicle fuel, it is commonly known as liquified petroleum gas (LPG or LP-gas), which can be a mixture of propane along with small amounts of propylene, butane, and butylene. The odorant ethanethiol is also added so that people can easily smell the gas in case of a leak."

I´m not very good in chemistry, but a lot makes me really confused in this matter?
By the way - we´re out of topic here!
« Last Edit: March 15, 2009, 11:23:57 pm by Sune Persson »

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 09:45:38 am »
Environment aside, would a 26cc be competitive in 35cc?
And I don't mean Standard Zenoah...

I believe in that kind of speed (both 26 and 35cc) the handling, skill and experience, are more important.

I have my favorite among the one's in the article, just have to convince my wife and wallet  ;D

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 09:35:26 pm »
Convince your wallet, it must be the CMB then?!! ;)
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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 09:57:00 pm »
Actually, no. But perhaps that's a good next step (for the article). Expand the info with tech and price.
Funny though, initially it was just a mock, a article consisting of one SENTENCE (google again) just to try the layout and then was forgotten. Suddenly people started mailing me 26cc engines. Took a while to grasp...
But thanks all contributors. 

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 10:54:35 pm »
Actually, no. But perhaps that's a good next step (for the article). Expand the info with tech and price.

Okay!

QD25Ht is $850  including pipe and muffler + tax.
In Sweden it translates to about $1.080 ink tax.

CMD26 price €700 is $910 this price include tax for EU.
To the CMB26 you has to add a the pipe. for €93 in $120
CMB26 total is about $1.030.

A RCMK S254 is $265 and a Turnament cylinder $167 complete pipe + $210. 
(Whit the RCMK you have a "spare std Cyl" RCMK dont sell "tuned engines")
RCMK a total of $642. + tax
RCMK S254 in Sweden is about $815.

RCMK looks to be, - most bang for the money.
QD and CMB are a $200 up compared to RCMK.
But from a horsepower perspective then i think QD25HT is the leader.

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Re: 26cc-27cc
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2009, 12:05:56 am »
Just one problem with QD, -You must buy 2 engines if you like to go for serious race with it, because there is no spareparts aviable in sweden.

I know that all RCMK spares is just 0-2 days away (except for me, is´s just seconds away ;D) and I beleive ModelMarin also will have spares in stock for CMB...

And to have spareparts aviable is very important if you get into racing with the engine.