Hi Leon ,
What i meant is this :
This is a text from the NAVIGA minutes of Leno
NOwhere in the text are they saying how long the stop is so i'm wondering , is there a time that you have to stop
The current safety rule is issuing a yellow card for breaches of safety rules. This does not seem to be working very well because there are problems with recording who was given yellow card in one heat and carried it thorough to the next. It creates additional administration for the judges.
Peter Schaft has put forward a proposal that the yellow safety card is replaced with “ stop and go “ penalty. This would mean that if a judge has issued a competitor with a stop and go penalty they would have to bring the boat back to the pontoon, turn off the engine and start again to continue the race.
Stop and go penalty would be given for the following situations:
FSR –V - passing the rescue boat or the pontoon too close and too fast
FSR – O – passing the pontoon too close too fast
FSR – H – passing the pontoon too close too fast will mean an extra lap to complete the race.
Ian Folkson, clarified the problem in noting the yellow card because it is meant to be carried over from 1st heat into the next. Alternative “stop go” penalty is immediate, does not carry over to next heat. It will make the race safer, yellow card / safety card is not being noted by competitors.
France already uses this system.
Steve Whenham suggested we need to also decide how many stop and go penalties will you be allowed in one heat? Otherwise you can continue to drive recklessly to make up the missed time.
Australia was concerned about how does the judge measure the distance from pontoon or the rescue boat. Ian Folkson responded that judge needs to be consistent not necessarily accurate.
France confirms it is a good system. It gives you an opportunity to calm down, discuss with judge etc.
Luxemburg – safety for people in the rescue is most important the safety measures in place are not making it safer for them.
Ian Folkson suggest that maybe if you have 2 stop and go penalties in the heat you should be out of that heat.
Sweden – in respect of offshore racing even just 1 stop and go penalty will mean that you are out of the race, you will not qualify.
Steve Whenham was concerned that whilst we all know about danger of the rescue boat and pits has anyone thought about the fact that the judge is not watching the race whilst he is issuing a penalty and they should each be given a runner to deliver the decision to competitor .
USA – If you have 3 extra penalty laps you are out of the race. It does not matter how this is done but the judges should be consistent. Why not just keep it a penalty lap system and you remove the competitor after predetermined number of penalties. USA were concerned that you are creating other safety problems in the process of removing boat from the water and re-launching the boat because of stop go penalty.
Ezio Casini pointed out that the life of the people in rescue boat is more important than the competitors race.
Germany believe that in FSR-O one lap deduction is better than stop go penalty. For FSR-V v it would be applicable but for O it may be difficult.
France there should be a time on stop go penalty. Competitor should be given time to think because you need to calm down before they are re-launching the boat.
Some further discussion took place regarding within how many laps should the boat be brought in and that stop and go penalty cannot be appealed because it is immediate. The safety card could be formally appealed at the end.
Discussion was closed and revised proposal was put forward for the vote:
H – extra lap for safety rule breach, when 3rd penalty has been issued competitor will be told to bring the boat in and take no further part in that heat.
O – lap deducted for safety rule breach, when 3rd penalty has been issued competitor will be told to bring the boat in and take no further part in that heat.
V – stop and go penalty applies for safety rule breaches. Once competitor has been informed by the judge that they have received a stop and go penalty
they will have to immediately bring the boat back to the pontoon, put it on the stand, stop the engine, restart and resume the competition. When the 3rd stop and go penalty has been issued to the same competitor they will be told to bring the boat in and take no further part in that heat.
Above revised proposal was put forward by Ian Folkson and seconded by USA.
Voting takes place
Everyone present agreed to the rule change as above.
As you can see in the last part "they will have to immediately bring the boat back to the pontoon, put it on the stand, stop the engine, restart and resume the competition" , there is no mentioning of time ............
Thats what i'm asking : how long will you have to stop ( meaning , boat on the stand and not touching it )
Btw , i think thats a crap rule in the first place . Then again , i haven't had many yellow or red cards so i might have some benefit on it lol .
B
